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Lōdal Evo T-28 compacting waste collection trucks, side view.
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★ Your nomination has been reviewed and promoted ★
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Leica Z2X ("Titanium" version), front view.
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★ Your nomination has been reviewed and promoted ★
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Inside view of an aircraft fuselage (classical fabric-covered wood construction).
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Structured Commons newsletter, December 13, 2017
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- There was a IRC Office Hour about Structured Commons on November 21. You can read the log here.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 8 January 2018.
Problems
- When you import a page from another wiki the usernames of the users who edited the article on the wiki you imported it from are shown in the article history. This should link to the users on the original wiki. A script to fix this caused problems for Wikidata and German Wikipedia. It also created a large number of SUL accounts on wikis where editors had never edited. [1]
- Some bot owners got email about their bots logging in from a new computer. If this is from one or a couple of wikis, you can turn these messages off in your preferences on those wikis until the problem has been solved. If not, you can report more about the problem in Phabricator.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week. There will be no new MediaWiki version next week either.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 December at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Files on Commons will have structured metadata in the future. The developers are now looking for examples of different kinds of metadata to make sure they are aware of them when they build prototypes for structured data on Commons. You can read more and help by giving examples of interesting media files.
- The Structured Commons team are making sure Commons work with structured data. If you regularly contribute to Commons and Wikidata you can answer a survey that helps the team prioritise the tools that are important for the Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey ends on 22 December. You can read more on Commons. You can also help the team decide on better names for "captions" and "descriptions". This ends on 3 January 2018.
- The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey has now ended. You can see the results. They decide what the Community Tech team will work on next year.
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15:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Happy holidays! 2018! ;)
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* Happy Holidays 2018, El Grafo! * | |
-- George Chernilevsky talk 18:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC) |
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Change is the way of life. Challenge is the aim of life. This New Year take up the challenge to bring about great changes into your life. Happy New Year. . --The Photographer 14:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC) |
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On Wikidata, the "save" button when you edit is now called "publish". This means all Wikimedia wikis have now changed from "Save page" to "Publish changes". This is to help new editors understand what it does. [2][3]
- Some edits will get an automatic tag on all wikis. This will happen when making a page a redirect, blanking a page, removing almost all content, undoing an edit, or rolling back an edit. You can see the tags for example in the recent changes feed, article history, user contributions or on your watchlist. Some wikis had already marked edits like these in other ways. [4]
- Special:UnusedFiles shows files that have been uploaded but are not used. It will show a file that is not used on the wiki it has been uploaded to, even if the file is used on another wiki. The new Special:GloballyUnusedFiles page on Commons only shows files that are not used on any wiki. [5]
- Structured discussions now uses the 2017 wikitext editor instead of its old custom one. This will work with your preference for wikitext or visual editor. The documentation has been updated. [6][7]
Problems
- Older versions of the Chrome web browser on mobile devices may see the PDF download button, but it does not work. The developers are looking into the problem. [8]
- With the new filters in the recent changes, "Exclude selected" in "Namespaces" did not work for "Saved filters" between 13 December and 2 January. When you loaded the saved filter all other namespaces were excluded instead. This has now been fixed. If you made any changes to your saved filters between 13 December and 2 January, you need to save your filters with excluded namespaces again. [9]
- The latest version of Google Chrome broke how section links are shown in the address bar. You now see
#R%C3%A9sum%C3%A9instead of#Résuméeven if MediaWiki did not encode it that way. This happened in early December. This problem has been solved. The fix will be in Chrome 64 (23 January) or Chrome 65 (6 March). [10] 
Some POST requests to the API took longer than usual in parts of December. This affected the Wikidata UI and some gadgets the most. It has now been fixed. [11]
Changes later this week
- Wikidata will be moved to its own database servers. This is because it is growing and needs more resources. Because of this you will be able to read but not edit Wikidata and the German Wikipedia between 06:00 and 06:30 UTC on 9 January. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. This includes editing the language links on other wikis. [12]
- The font size in the editing window will change slightly for some users. It will now look the same on all browsers and operating systems. [13][14]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 January. It will be on all wikis from 11 January (calendar).
- WikiEditor's ResourceLoader modules have been simplified to one:
ext.wikiEditor. All the other modules are now deprecated aliases and should be removed. [15]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 January at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Valued Image Promotion
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Emigrantenstein, Eckersdorf.
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.
review
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SupportVery nice; Useful and Used. -- 
Quality Image Promotion
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Valued Image Promotion
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Götschel Bakery & Brewery.
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review
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats on Wikimedia wikis where the Translate extension is installed can now add and remove the translation administrator permission by default. Administrators of wikis where this extension is enabled can add and remove this permission to or from themselves. Wikis that used a different configuration before have not changed. [16]
- There is a new Discourse test support channel for Wikimedia developers. You can ask questions or answer others questions about MediaWiki and Wikimedia software development. [17]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a bug that changed non-ASCII characters when a page was edited. [18][19]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 January. It will be on all wikis from 18 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 January at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- A few hundred wikis with less than ten high-priority errors in Linter categories will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 31 January. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [20][21]
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18:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Valued Image Promotion
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Lōdal Evo T-28 compacting waste collection trucks, side view.
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.
review
Valued Image Promotion
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Gourdon, Lot, France. Town Hall facade, North exposure..
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.
review
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Filters on Special:RecentChangesLinked will get the new look similar to on the recent changes page. Special:RecentChangesLinked will also get some new features. [22][23]
Problems
- With the new OOUI look menus and popups can open upwards instead of downwards. This was meant to make long dropdown menus easier to use. Sometimes these menus have been overlapped by other things. This is now fixed. [24]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
irc.wikimedia.orgwill be rebooted on 22 February. Some bots use this to get the recent changes feed. They need to be able to reconnect automatically or they will not work until they have been fixed. Most bots can reconnect automatically. [25]
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23:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation is working on how to get less unmaintained code on Wikimedia wikis. This could be by finding maintainers or removing unmaintained features. They are now looking for feedback on what do do with AbuseFilter, the IRC RecentChanges feed, the RelatedSites extension and TimedMediaHandler. You can leave feedback on the linked talk pages. [26]
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17:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Valued Image Promotion
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Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
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Leica Z2X ("Titanium" version), front view.
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review
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Inside view of an aircraft fuselage (classical fabric-covered wood construction).
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.
review
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats can now add and remove the accountcreator permission by default. This means the user can help create a large number of accounts, for example for an editathon. Wikis can change this if they want to. [27]
- The Wikidata vandalism dashboard is a new tool to monitor vandalism on Wikidata labels and descriptions. It is filtered by language. [28]
- Info pages for file pages now show the file's SHA1 hash value in the table of basic information. This is so users can see that the file is the same as the one they uploaded. [29]
Problems
- Special:Export has a higher error rate right now. This means that the export does not always work. You should check to make sure your page exports worked. The developers are working on fixing this. [30]
Changes later this week
- When you review an edit made with the visual editor you can check a visual diff of your changes besides the wikitext diff. If you pick one diff type it will remember and show you that in future. The visual diff will now be the type first shown to new users. [31]
- When you use a gallery to show images you can define the size, like
gallery widths="150px". You could useemor%instead ofpxbut it would make no difference. You can now only use150pxor nothing (150). If you write something else, instead of treating it likepx, it will not work. [32] - The wording when you send a thanks message will change. Instead of
YesorNoit will sayThankandCancel. It will also be easier to understand that all thanks are public. [33] - Redirects connected to Wikidata can create double Wikidata items. There will now be a tracking category for this. Wikis that don't want it can disable it. [34]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Education Program extension will be removed on 30 June. It is replaced by the Programs and Events Dashboard. [35][36]
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20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- TemplateStyles has been deployed to the Swedish Wikipedia. TemplateStyles is a feature to make it easy to add CSS to templates without administrator privileges. This allows for better adaptability to screen sizes, especially on mobile where are half our total page views. If your community would like to be the next to have the feature, please submit a task on Phabricator. [37][38][39]
- Registration pages now collect keyboard/mouse usage information for research on identifying spambots.
Changes later this week
- You can opt in to a new beta feature that lets you use visual diffs on history pages. [40]
- The visual editor shows and lets you edit templates in one way, and reference lists in another. This meant that templates that only contain a fake reference list, like
{{reflist}}, would not get updated as you edited. Now they will update as you edit, but you will no longer be able to visually edit them as templates. [41] - The abuse filter extension has a new feature
contains_allthat you may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string. [42] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 February at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The settings page and beta options for the mobile website are being improved. [43]
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21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The explanation of the abbreviations on the recent changes page could overlap with the list of changes. This has been fixed. [44][45]
- You can now see statistics for pageviews per wiki per country. You can see this on maps or in a table. [46]
Problems
- Linter is reporting estimated counts instead of actual counts for some wikis. This is because of performance problems. You might notice a false higher number in linter counts for some categories. This will be fixed as soon as the performance problem has been fixed. [47]
- Last week the way that Visual Editor displays references lists was changed. As a result, the references generated by specific templates like
{{sfn}}are not visible in the references list whilst editing. [48][49]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The way edit summaries and log comments are stored in the database is being changed. In the future this will make longer comments possible. [50]
- Edit conflicts could be solved in a different way in the future. You can test a new prototype.
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22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Checkusers and stewards can now view private data such as the IP address in the abuse log. This data is removed regularly. [51]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki version was rolled back because of a bug. [52][53]
- Since the deployment train last week until late evening on 20 February UTC, when you thanked someone for an edit, the thank went to the latest unthanked edit to that page. It didn't matter which edit you tried to give thanks for. This has been fixed. [54]
- Special:Statistics did not take newly created pages into account since 13 February 2018. Because of this the statistics are recreated. [55][56][57]
Changes later this week
- Users with version 10 of the Internet Explorer browser will no longer get JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis. If you use this browser on your computer, you can try upgrading to a newer version. [58]
- The Wikinews wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 27 February. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [59][60]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 1 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now make longer edit summaries. [61]
Changes later this week
- You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. [62]
- On Special:AbuseLog you can now choose to list only actions that actually made an edit. Other actions are when the filter warned the editor or blocked the edit from being made. There are also more search options. [63][64]
- Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor, but it is complex. The tool will now warn in the JavaScript console if the configuration isn't correct. Soon Citoid will disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it. [65]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 March. It will be on all wikis from 8 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- In the future you will be able to use global preferences. This means you could change a preference for all wikis instead of having to change it every time for each wiki. You can now test global preferences and give feedback.
- You can now read about planned works on maps during 2018. This will be done by June. You can give feedback on the planned maps work.
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17:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Why do you removed Category:Raspberry Pi from Raspbian category?
--Jasc PL (talk) 15:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: See COM:OVERCAT: Category:Raspbian is a sub-category of Category:Raspberry Pi operating systems, which itself is a sub-category of Category:Raspberry Pi. Thus, Category:Raspbian is still a sub-sub-category of Category:Raspberry Pi. Does that help? --El Grafo (talk) 15:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: - That's right - theoretically, but not in every situations. COM:OVERCAT is also the general but not absolute rule, and in this specific event double categorization like that I used in Category:Raspberry Pi is fully reasonable. I hope you know, why?
- If exist any other way to put Raspbian category under Raspberry Pi operating systems AND DIRECT UNDER Raspberry Pi - no problem - I'am open for every proposals --Jasc PL (talk) 15:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: To be honest: No, I don't know why. Care to explain? --El Grafo (talk) 15:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: First of all - you removed my work without any word of explanation - are you sure that all is OK?
- Since a week I'am working on whole group of categories and pages concerning Raspberry Pi, so I probably know what I do and what for it is. Maybe you can do the rest of work?
- So, I undo your removal and ask one of admins - hi will decide. --Jasc PL (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: Changing categories without further explanation is indeed perfectly normal here – HotCat doesn't even let you make a comment. I've been working on Commons categorization for a couple of years now, so I also "probably know what I'm doing". Of course I may be wrong, that's why I asked for an explanation (which you still haven't provided). But maybe we should indeed ask for other opinions. No need to waste an admin's time though, it's not part of their job to decide these kind of things. Asking for input at COM:VP would be the normal way to do this. --El Grafo (talk) 16:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: . Understood. OK, maybe you are right with proposal of place to discuss this matter. I know that you have a goodly amount of knowledge and experience on how everything works here. I'am a some newbie, but I work (in Wikipedia and Wikidata also) only with (technical) themes I know, understand and have enough experience. You are not answered my question - is any other way to have Category:Raspbian in both places? If so, we don't need any further discuss. However, as you see, Category:Raspberry Pi and the rest is and will be for some time "Under Construction" now, finally I want to have all work ready, complete and properly. So, below is the text (and also explanation for you) I started to write:
- "...I'am working no Category:Raspberry Pi (and all groups of concerning categories and pages). In that main category I put Category:Raspbian AND in subCategory:Raspberry Pi operating systems. Why? Because Raspbian is one among compatible operating systems (I will add the rest), but it's also the MAIN, most popular and only one "official" OS for Raspberry Pi - so I'am sure that it should be visible direct in Category:Raspberry Pi and people should easy find or see it, regardless of they known correct name of it or not." --Jasc PL (talk) 17:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: Alright, I see your point now. First of all, if you were to create a separate Category:Raspberry Pi Foundation as a parent category for Category:Raspberry Pi, Category:Raspbian should certainly be a direct sub-category of Category:Raspberry Pi Foundation.
- One way to make Category:Raspbian visible from Category:Raspberry Pi without it being a direct sub-category could be to add it to the category's description. Currently, that only consists of a link to the relevant Wikipedia article, so it could benefit from a bit more information anyway. Something like "Raspberry Pi is a series of small single-board computers developed by the Raspberry Pi Foundation, running Raspbian or other Linux-based operating systems", maybe?
- Another option could be to add something like {{For2|screenshots of the default user interface|Category:Raspbian}} to the top of the category page.
- Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 14:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @El Grafo: , thanks for your answer. I need some time to analyze and fully understand both your alternative proposals. The rest... nein, nein, nein! :) - Category:Raspberry Pi was, and must remain as MAIN (hub) category for all others. Most of category tree under it need modifications, an example: Category:Taken with Raspberry Pi OV5647 have any sense direct under main - I move it somewhere, but later. Category:Raspberry Pi Foundation - I'll create it, or not, later - with, probably, some subcategories concerning of various Raspberry Pi Foundation activities - it depends...
- Now, I have an open discuss with the Pi Foundation and shortly I should know what will be available for as - under cc-by-sa and how big it is. Then I decide how to divide and categorize this new content, where should be some descriptions etc. Finally I will try to translate it into Polish and ask you for German too.
- All descriptions of RPi in Wikidata also needs modifications; I switched to Commons for one moment only, just for some pictures and logos illustrating items I edited in WD. Finally, I'am sitting here since a week. Greetings, --Jasc PL (talk) 17:11, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: Well, looks like you've got a plan, so I won't stand in your way. BTW: If you want more input on the development of the category tree, it might be a good idea to start a COM:CfD for the main category. While the main purpose of CfD is discussing how single categories should be names or whether a category should be kept or deleted, it is also frequently used for discussions about how to structure categories. Discussions there can be a bit slow as there are not too many people engaging there, but it's probably the best place for getting in touch with the categorization experts. As for myself, unfortunately my time for on-wiki work is very limited these days, so I try to stay away from larger projects I won't be able to finish anyway and just do some minor maintenance work here and there. I'll try to keep an eye on this, but I can't make any promises right now. I'd be happy to provide some German translations if needed, though. Greetings, --El Grafo (talk) 09:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: , soon I will put our discuss here in my discuss archive for having by hand all your technical proposals. Probably you will receive 9 or more mass messages, maybe also by mail. Don't be angry - I don't know yet how to switch them off, use of :re was a bad idea. So, feel free to remove all from here, if you want. Greetings --Jasc PL (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @El Grafo: , I'm back :). Let me ask one simple question: I'v changed German label of "Raspberry Pi Foundation" to "Raspberry Pi Stiftung", one user has reverted it with description "Entweder englisch Raspberry Pi Foundation oder deutsch Raspberry-Pi-Stiftung)". What is more correct? English names in German should be used in it's original name or with "-"?
- BTW, you make a very interesting photos :). Have a nice weekend --Jasc PL (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: Well, looks like you've got a plan, so I won't stand in your way. BTW: If you want more input on the development of the category tree, it might be a good idea to start a COM:CfD for the main category. While the main purpose of CfD is discussing how single categories should be names or whether a category should be kept or deleted, it is also frequently used for discussions about how to structure categories. Discussions there can be a bit slow as there are not too many people engaging there, but it's probably the best place for getting in touch with the categorization experts. As for myself, unfortunately my time for on-wiki work is very limited these days, so I try to stay away from larger projects I won't be able to finish anyway and just do some minor maintenance work here and there. I'll try to keep an eye on this, but I can't make any promises right now. I'd be happy to provide some German translations if needed, though. Greetings, --El Grafo (talk) 09:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: . Understood. OK, maybe you are right with proposal of place to discuss this matter. I know that you have a goodly amount of knowledge and experience on how everything works here. I'am a some newbie, but I work (in Wikipedia and Wikidata also) only with (technical) themes I know, understand and have enough experience. You are not answered my question - is any other way to have Category:Raspbian in both places? If so, we don't need any further discuss. However, as you see, Category:Raspberry Pi and the rest is and will be for some time "Under Construction" now, finally I want to have all work ready, complete and properly. So, below is the text (and also explanation for you) I started to write:
- @Jasc PL: Changing categories without further explanation is indeed perfectly normal here – HotCat doesn't even let you make a comment. I've been working on Commons categorization for a couple of years now, so I also "probably know what I'm doing". Of course I may be wrong, that's why I asked for an explanation (which you still haven't provided). But maybe we should indeed ask for other opinions. No need to waste an admin's time though, it's not part of their job to decide these kind of things. Asking for input at COM:VP would be the normal way to do this. --El Grafo (talk) 16:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Jasc PL: To be honest: No, I don't know why. Care to explain? --El Grafo (talk) 15:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: - That's right - theoretically, but not in every situations. COM:OVERCAT is also the general but not absolute rule, and in this specific event double categorization like that I used in Category:Raspberry Pi is fully reasonable. I hope you know, why?
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Recent changes
- 3D models can now be uploaded to Commons. [66]
- Page Previews has been updated to use HTML for previews. This has fixed many issues. An A/B test was done on English and German Wikipedia to measure how it is used. Other changes were also made. [67]
- Some edits have to be checked against too many conditions before they can trigger an abuse filter. If that is the reason no filter is triggered the edit will be tagged for review. [68]
- Auto-saving has been added to the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. Right now it is meant to help if your browser crashes or if you accidentally close a tab. [69]
Problems
- The abuse filter did not tag all edits that should have been tagged after last week's MediaWiki version had come to the wikis. It was fixed on 9 March (UTC). [70]
Changes later this week
- You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. This was originally planned to happen last week. [71]
- It is now possible to specify the block parameters for each filter in Special:AbuseFilter. The parameters include block duration and if the user should be blocked from editing their own talk page. The block duration is separate for anonymous and registered users. [72][73]
- A hundred Wikimedia wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 13 and 14 March. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [74][75][76]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 March. It will be on all wikis from 15 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On March 12 early morning UTC, the number of 503 error messages increased due to an issue on esams datacenter. It has been fixed. [77]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 March. It will be on all wikis from 22 March (calendar).
Meetings
- There is no Editing team meeting this week.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- From April 4, the autopatrol status of edits will only be accessible in the Recent Changes database table, so only for 30 days. [78][79]
- In-Context Help and Onboarding is a new project, aiming to improve retention of new wiki editors. The goal is to give them short tutorials and other training experiences based on their activity. Collaboration team is expecting feedback and comments on the project talk page, especially from people working with newcomers.
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